Understanding Post Cycle Therapy Better....

[maverik]

so, is it ok to take chlomid and hcg together then?

[carguy007007]

Still oh so confused...... Alright, I can see the logic in this post and the suggested dosages. I was convinced to use HCG in this manner... Then I read that damn Swales report and it says:

"I want my patients to stop taking HCG within a week after the end of the cycle. The testosterone production it induces will further inhibit recovery, as will using Androgel, or any other testosterone preparation, while in recovery. There is no escaping this, as there is no such thing as a ?bridge?. Just because you are not inhibiting the HPTA for the entire 24 hours does not mean you are not suppressing it at all. IOW, you can?t ?fool? the body?it is smarter than you are."

So......what the heck??? Take it during in mini-cycles, during the entire cycle, or after the cycle as suggested above?

Thanks and sorry for the hassle...

J

[fatman]

I started 500 iu did it three days in a row blew my b/p threw the roof 150/100 had to stop only one day and still up there. Couldn't sleep last night lower back hurts hope its not my kidneys. can you any info to help me out?

[Kalika]

I am starting week 9 on monday of 500mgs of test. I am running it for 10 weeks. After last shot of test e., I was told to wait a week and start hcg along with my 4 weeks of prop and winny. I am ending this cycle with 100mgs of prop eod and 50mgs of winny ed.

I have clomid and nolva on hand to start right after prop and winny. Probably use the nolva at 40,30,20,20.

any recommendations welcomed.

[Kalika]

Originally Posted by carguy007007

Still oh so confused...... Alright, I can see the logic in this post and the suggested dosages. I was convinced to use HCG in this manner... Then I read that damn Swales report and it says:

"I want my patients to stop taking HCG within a week after the end of the cycle. The testosterone production it induces will further inhibit recovery, as will using Androgel, or any other testosterone preparation, while in recovery. There is no escaping this, as there is no such thing as a ?bridge?. Just because you are not inhibiting the HPTA for the entire 24 hours does not mean you are not suppressing it at all. IOW, you can?t ?fool? the body?it is smarter than you are."

So......what the heck??? Take it during in mini-cycles, during the entire cycle, or after the cycle as suggested above?

Thanks and sorry for the hassle...

J

I am a bit confused as well.

[4thAD]

read this whole thread Kailka! It will explain PCT recommendations as well as HCG!


Newly Updated Recommendations--- HCG & PCT

[Kalika]

Originally Posted by 4thAD

read this whole thread Kailka! It will explain PCT recommendations as well as HCG!


Newly Updated Recommendations--- HCG & PCT

i did and it says start at beginning of the cycle. I will re read it. thanks man.