EQ/Winny help

crabcola · #1 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 12:43 AM

K Guys. I've been been lifting for mostly mass for about 6 months, and with creatine and protein, I've put on 15 lbs with virtually no bodyfat gain. I have acquired some gear that I want to use. I have 20 ml of EQ 200 and 20 ml of stan. I was hoping to just use them and harden up a bit while boosting strength more in the process. I'm 6'0 230 lbs. right now with 18.5% bodyfat. After I do this cycle, I will go into a cut phase and hopefully get down to about 215 and 12 %. Do any of you think you could write me out a good cycle for the gear I have with PCT included?? I am not a beginner, but not exactly an intermediate user, either. So, it'd be safe to assume I know nothing.

xhosea · #2 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 12:53 AM

Not tryin to be a dick but...

15 pounds with no bodyfat gain? teach me! lol... How old are ya?

What was your first cycle? It seems to me that you are much more of a beginner than you let on. Any and all cycles should be Test based. Why is there no test in your supposed cycle? What is your diet like?

jhntruevine · #3 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 01:15 AM

Besides the fact that you have no test in your cycle...which you really should. EQ is much more effective in longer cycles, 20ml is not that much unless your running low doses. If you are, do not expect a lot from the EQ.

telmon1 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 01:20 AM

Xosea is def right about the test base. Also, the gear you have really wouldn't be enough for a full cycle IMO. As I can see it youl'll have enough for a 10 wk cycle @ 400mgs for the Eq...the stan should be enough assuming it 50mg / ml. IMO the EQ should be ran for 14-16 weeks at at least 400 ew.

Biggin · #5 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 01:51 AM

The gear U have is used for cutting as well.

crabcola · #6 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 02:51 AM

Thanks, everyone. I was hoping for more of a cutting method. I'm trying to harden/lean up for my beach wedding in June. I am entering the cutting phase of my workouts in a few weeks, anyway. I am definitely not afraid of the label "noob" or beginner around here. I definitely am closer to that. I truly appreciate all the feedback. That is why I am here. So, I should add some more EQ and winny?? What test would be most beneficial for this setup?? A long or short ether??

xhosea · #7 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 02:55 AM

The long or short ester is gonna be up to you, given your level of expirience I would run Test E... and the EQ should be ran for much longer to get the most out of it.

crabcola · #8 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xhosea

The long or short ester is gonna be up to you, given your level of expirience I would run Test E... and the EQ should be ran for much longer to get the most out of it.

Thank you, sir. I'm going with 40 ml eq and 20ml stan. I will also include 40 ml test E. Now would you fellas please write me out one

consider this a first cycle.

xhosea · #9 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crabcola

Thank you, sir. I'm going with 40 ml eq and 20ml stan. I will also include 40 ml test E. Now would you fellas please write me out one

consider this a first cycle.

First cycles should always be test only bro. People have many different reactions to these compounds, and if you have a negative reaction, you will never know what caused it. Test E @ 500mg/week (bi-weekly injections) for 12 weeks is a perfect first cycle.

crabcola · #10 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 03:38 AM

That I do understand. Though, I've taken Equipoise with test before. I just didn't have the proper direction. I've taken winny also. I am just ready to try these things in the right amount and combo. I'm serious about my diet as well. But, I will do the test e only for 12 weeks. I am truly thankful for you guys taking the time to educate me properly. Should I do anything for pct???